Kate Middleton’s Boobs, The Sun, The Sunday Sport and me.

Kate Middletons Boobs
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Brace yourselves, I’m beginning by getting all Wikipedia on your arses… Approximately half the people in the world have breasts.

Shocked? Surprised? Nah, me neither.

They are everywhere, in front of women wherever they go,  in newspapers of a, how shall I put it tactfully? Shit quality. On the front of magazines in major supermarkets scantily clad women appear – the nipple may be covered but the boobs are well and truly out. In smaller local newsagents one only has to cast an eye up the top shelf to see an array of tits staring back at one.

I’m not about to get in to the rights and wrongs of Kate Middleton’s privacy being invaded, maybe the press have been ‘out of order guv’, maybe she should ‘expect it’ being one of the most famous women on the planet or maybe it’s a classic case of sibling rivalry and she’s deflecting attention back away from her sisters arse. I don’t know and to be frank – I don’t care.

I’m also not going to get into the gender inequality of the ratio of images in the media of women’s bodies as opposed to men’s bodies. I think we all grasp the fact that as women, and let me put this as eloquently as I can, generally… shit is harder.

What I am going to write is this – THEY ARE JUST BREASTS. They are everywhere, what’s the big deal. Effectively Kate has been saying, and I am somewhat summing it up in leymans terms here…

 “WHAT THE HOLY MOTHER OF MOLY. THOSE ARE MY BREASTS. HOW DARE YOU ALL LOOK AT MY BREASTS? I WILL SUE YOU. I WILL TAKE YOU DOWN MOTHER DUCKERS. STOP SHOWING EVERYONE MY BAPS”

She is not helping ‘the sisterhood’. Wouldn’t it be much nicer if she actually said:

“Yes those are my breasts, I don’t particularly like the fact that the world has been shown my norks but at the end of the day they are nothing to be ashamed of. I am a woman and they are part of me. One day I may have babies and I may choose to use those to feed those babies. There are people starving in this world, war torn countries, death and disaster, how about you media bods let those issues take centre stage?”

Surely Wills should take one for the team, step up to the plate and work an old military diversion tactic at this point? Consider mooning at the paparazzi, possibly showing a good inch of scrotum…just a thought.

Some women like to ‘get them out’, some women like to cover them up but ultimately do they really warrant the hype they get? Where do you stand on breasts? Not literally ‘where do you stand on breasts?’ you understand – I’m sure those establishments exists but I do not desire to locate their whereabouts. What I mean to ask is, do you feel that breasts are portrayed predominantly as sexual objects and how do we start to change their perceptions to what they really are, a part of the human body, one for not only fumbling with but also for feeding our offspring ?

 

Related posts by other bloggers that you might like to read:

Royally Tits Up – Mums the Word

Tits Up – The Krakenwakes 

Those topless photos and why debate is good – Mummy from the Heart

Topical Storm- Why didn’t Kate keep ‘em covered – Mummy Central

Big Fashionista – Tits and Balls

MS Mummy of Two – Let them be naked!

You’re not from round here – Is Kate Middleton entitled to privacy?

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Comments

  1. Dont agree actually Annie think the sisterhood is about ‘respecting each other’ not saying breasts are no big deal, and if she didnt want her breasts seen for whatever her reasons she should be respected. Thts sisterhood supporting women to make their own decisions. She had decided to be private and that was her right. We should support her. Personally I breast fed in public happily for 2 years without being self concious at all but that was MY choice wasn’t it. each to their own and all that. Us ladies need to support each others right to differ I think. But hey !

    • Thanks Becky, I do see your point I really do. I guess the issues of privacy, women being comfortable with their bodies and generally how breasts aseem to be portrayed in some of the media just all arise from this story about Kate.I love your line ‘Us ladies need to support each others right to differ’, what a lovely think it would be if the day came when someone high profile gets papped with their boobs out and no one bats an eyelid, let alone bidding wars between papers and magazines as to who gets to buy the images.
      You’ve made me think Becky (which isn’t something I do often so thanks) x

    • I agree, in principle. Breast feeding in public – your choice and ‘hell yes’. Going topless on the beach – again your choice (although I’m not sure why fried nipples are attractive anyway).

      But, the publicity isn’t helping them and unfortunately the media have no scrupples, morals and as long as the money is rolling in they don’t give a flying fcuk. I’d be peeved – I said so in my comment below. I can see why Mamma made her post – but it doesn’t as you say, make it right!

      I feel for her, respect her outburst, think Wills is a hero for making a stand for his wife – but we live in a sick world of money over human rights. Promoting the likes of the Women’s Wordwide Web, Half the Sky and Sevenly might be a good move for Kate right now. It is in places like these that she will earn much respect and the publicity would be damning to the media and their lack of respect for ‘Womens Rights’

  2. I salute you for that very brave picture! With two young boys boobies are seen as something absolutely hilarious at ours and also something very important which fed them both when they were babies…husband also find them hilarious and BEGS to put the sun cream on them when we are on our holidays!

    • I’ve not been happy with mine for years now, breastfeeding eight babies hasn’t been kind to them and it’s only lately that I’ve started to feel more ‘at one’ with them (if that’s even possible!) I didn’t get them out on holiday, which I regret now. Being on a beach of slender 20 somethings with jubliees a good 4 inches higher than mine I couldn’t help but feel slightly ashamed of them which is daft I know. Is it the pressures of the bouncing bossoms seen in the likes on The Sun that contributes to me feeling that way or am I just a vain madam? Who knows!

      • …sorry…just picked myself up off the floor after reading the bit about 8 babies!! You look awesome – you really do. I’m not overly confident about getting them out on holiday but then just think ‘to hell with it, They can’t be that bad, surely?!’…then I hide the Sun newspaper under my sunbed…

  3. I want to say something really cool and urbane, but all I can think is “I just saw Annie’s boobs…” I keep scrolling back up slowly to see if I imagined it, or if the image self-destructed but IT’S STILL THERE! Anyway, shock out of the way, you are a goddess and make some great points (fnar fnar!).

    You’re right in what you say; they’re just boobs. Maybe if the taboo surrounding them was removed a bit, we wouldn’t have the breastapo marching around claiming that they’re being marginalised because they choose to breastfeed. Also, while you can’t deny the sensationalist nature of the article, French people in general (in my experience) are far more non-plussed by nudity than us Brits, so there’s that too.

    In short, I could go round and round on this subject, but you’ve summed it all up beautifully.

  4. Also, can I just state for the record, should it ever come down to any sort of referendum – I have ZERO desire to see Wills’ scrotum, not even an inch of it!

  5. ROFL …… Nice tits missus.

    I know, I know, it’s not nice to have your privacy invaded. And yes, Will’s Mum (we know her well, she had great media coverage) had it pretty bad, to the point of her death – which is probably why he’s naffed off (politely putting it) by the French media. But I agree, that the more you say it naffs you off – the more they’ll print it and the more coverage you are giving yourself.

    I think the best publicity would be a breast feeding Kate with Will’s arm round Mum and Baby here – but given that’s at least 9 months away from a possiblity hit back, I guess they are doing what they can, when they can.

    If it was me, I’d be a bit peeved, especially if I hadn’t got the chance to pose with my best side (you’d only get one tit, I’m afraid). When I was breast feeding, I’d of given anyone a piece of my mind for objecting to my getting my tits out in public – but now (if I had taken every step possible to get them out in privacy) – I’m a woman, I need to rejoice that my tits still look great after breast feeding and I’m not going public with the evidence …….. I’d give you a piece of my fist for taking the shot!

    I feel for her – but the publicity is fueling this and they perhaps whould just make a cal to MI5 and have the little $hits taken out instead. Ah I know, that’s not nice – but hey ‘Girl Power’ and ‘Don’t mess with me French Bitch Media, I’m not the pushovers youv’e dealt with in the past – I’m the daughter of Common Man’ – well almost!

    Still – nice shot Mamma!

  6. I think my issue with magazines posting the pictures of Kate’s tits is they say they are no big deal and yet write in huge text “OH MY GOD!” as if this is a huge fuss when as you say breasts aren’t a new thing. Also she is part of the royal family and it’s a bit offensive of a country to print a Princess’ topless photographs without permission, a Princess from another country of which many people in it care for their royal family.

    I do think as a race we are made to believe breasts are a sex symbol when they are actually a way to naturally feed our offspring. Do you see dogs or lions drooling over the nipples of the females of their breed? No they don’t and they let them be used as they are intended to be. But then again we could go on about how we are higher up than these animals, but how are we if we teach youngsters that tits are a sex symbol and nothing more? To me that degrades us as a race.

  7. My problem with it is the privacy aspect. She took every reasonable precaution and should have been confident to relax; a private holiday with her husband, at a private villa on a private estate a good distance from the road. Yes they were no doubt surrounded by security and various other staff but she was in as much privacy as she can reasonably expect and yet STILL some gutter pap felt the need to try and get a few snaps.

    I don’t give a flying monkeys about her breasts, like you said approximately half the world population has them (more if you include moobs! ;-) ) but had she been snapped on a public beach for example, I would be even less interested if that is possible. I do believe she still has a right to a certain degree of privacy in such instances.

  8. Perhaps to sum up the mood of whether it was OK to invade m’ lady’s privacy or not ….

    You DID choose to get your paps out in public for us Mamma – she didn’t!

    I’m loving the girlie support – there should be lots more of that – publicly and frequently xXx

  9. OMG! I love that you have posted a pic of your lovely boobs. I would never be so brave even though I have breastfed in public most days for the past 3 years. Supporting Mums who breastfeed on the maternity ward and in the support groups means I see lots of lovely, normal, different shaped, different sized boobs every week so like you, can’t see the big deal. I love that I had Dad’s chatting to me, completely seriously about breasts at the infant feeding workshop last night without even a hint of a titter ;D.
    That said, I can see why Wills and Kate are pissed off for their privacy being invaded. The fact that she was topless isn’t really the issue although I doubt the pictures would have made as much of a stir had she been fully clothed.

  10. Mmm. It’s a choice thing though, isn’t it? And it’s about a woman’s right to control her own body and what happens to it. It’s her right not to have her boobs in the paper just as much as it is your right to put yours on your blog, and my right not to have my arse groped on the train, and the right of every 13 year old girl in Ethiopia not to be forced into sex or marriage. I know we’re talking about different ends of the scale, but for me, it’s all linked. Women are not objects. People have got so caught up in the should she/shouldn’t she have had more sense than to take her top off discussion that they’re forgetting how bloody WRONG it is that a photographer would try and get photos of her on holiday at all. And as soon as you go down the ‘but they’re just boobs, it’s not such a big deal’ line, then I worry that you’re conceding ground and the boundaries of the argument shift to a place that is worse for women in general.

    I am really ranty about this, so I don’t know if any of that makes any sense, sorry. I hope it does.

    • Don’t worry that makes perfect sense. I wasn’t getting in to the privacy side of the story more how it opens up thoughts on how breasts are viewed.
      Taking Kate out of the equation entirely if breats were viewed less as sexual objects and more as simply a part of the human body then stories like Kates one would surely cease to be the scandal and news they are? No doubt they have have many photos taken that they don’t want to be public but they haven’t sued over those ones.
      Thanks Ruth,it’s always good to hear what you think :)

  11. I love this blog post and the fact that you’ve whipped out your mammarians for all to see. You belter, you!

    I agree that one of the biggest issues ‘we’ women face is that breasts are still seen as sexual objects and to my mind that means that the agenda is being controlled by those who see breasts as sexual objects the most: men. Until we get away from this whole business of whipping them out for the lads our norks will always be some sort of public property, to be enjoyed by anyone who can wangle a glimpse.

  12. Oooh I love a good debate on comment column! I think the poor woman should have been left in private but should have known better than to get them out, but so should Wills have done. It’s anyone’s right to flaunt them publicly should they so desire (and I don’t mean you, Annie, on here by doing coz you’re not flaunting – you’re just saying!) and should be anyone’s right to get them out at home. Seeing as there were obviously security staff present she was leaving herself exposed (Ha!) and vulnerable in exactly the same way Harry did. I mucb prefer your statement that she should be making to the press. Bravo on your pic. .

  13. Hellooooooo sweeties!! Clamidia Staines – agony aunt & sexpert here!! I’ve pranked the world over this and duped 1000s of pervies with my rather hilarious ruse entitled “Photo f Kate Middleton’s T*ts”. Visit it at http://www.clamidiablog.wordpress.com (adult humour). I’ve also got an exclusive pic of Prince Harry’s c**k (don’t worry it’s not what it sounds like!! ) ;) Love you all! Clamidia xx

  14. You have an amazing pair of bazookas! Mine literally halved in size after breastfeeding Iyla and they were pretty tiny to begin with, they will be invisible after this baby! In regards to the Kate thing, I agree, I mean if she was really that bothered about keeping her boobs private then she wouldn’t have got them out in public, I mean what does she expect?! Yeah sure she should have rights not to have them in the paper but she must know by know what the paparazzi are like and she chose to take the risk! X

  15. *sqeauls* *giggles* Ok, composure resumed. I don’t know what I was expecting, but I wasn’t prepared for your actual boobies to be staring at me. Fair play to you *high five*! You make a fair point. They are just boobs, all us ladies have them (well I nearly do…). But, she is a Duchess, you don’t use a Duchess’ jubblies in the media, that’s just bad manners, damn right disrespectful in fact. I feel for her cause while I’m proud of my mummy boobs, the thought of the whole world seeing them makes me very uneasy. So in answer to my hubby’s question when he saw this post, ‘Are you getting yours put?’, ‘hell to the no!’, but again fair play to you. Very brave and you look fab x

  16. I agree with you that there shouldn’t be a problem with breasts but I think that this is more to do with privacy and choice. You chose to post a picture of your wonderful breasts, she didn’t. The choice was taken away from her and just published without her permission which is a violation of her privacy however you look at it.

    An inch of scrotum. Ewwww! I might have nightmares tonight!

  17. I’m sorry to disagree with some lovely people who have made very eloquent points, but when she married the future king she gave up all rights to privacy apart from what goes on behind her own closed doors. She is the most famous woman on the planet, and she should know that when she is out of her home/room eyes are on her whether she likes it or not.
    I do agree with you Annie, that they are just boobs though, it’s not a big deal that they are out there. I have heard tell today that the Royals have had to take a stand because there are more “intimate” photos which haven’t yet been published, and if they don’t file a lawsuit over this, it could get more embarrassing still.
    In any case – if you’re the most high profile woman in the world, and you don’t want the world to see your breasts, keep them covered up!
    Nice tits btw ;)

    • I just realised that we’ll be sleeping together at the MADs next week and you will have seen my boobers. Not awkward at all then …;)

      It’s really interesting how people seem so divided over the whole privacy thing, I hadn’t really thought about it until reading these comments.

  18. Oooh just subscribing to comments

  19. I’m with Actually Mummy on this one.
    Breasts will NEVER be just a part of the body. Men find ‘em horny. They always will. So if you get ‘em out, blokes will want to look at them.
    A fact women like Kelly Brook and Jordan are celebrating. If this wasn’t a fact, they’d be serving on tills at Tesco.
    Marrying the future king means you’ve given up your right to privacy. Unless you’re behind closed doors (and even then be careful – look what happened to Harry) you shouldn’t take your clothes off unless you’re prepared for others to be watching. Even on a desert island in the middle of nowhere, celebs should know enough to realise the press can be hiding in bushes, or even circling in helicopters.
    Not saying it’s right, but it’s a fact of life.

  20. What a sight to see before me! And I mean that in a good way Annie, but you chose to show your boobies to the world and Kate didn’t.She was on holiday in a secluded house where she assumed she could be free to be topless.If I was her I would be bloody livid and she has every right to stop those photographs being published.Yes, she is the future queen and kind of signed away her privacy but that doesn’t mean she isn’t entitled to any.

  21. Why does marrying the man you love mean you have to give up your right to privacy? I don’t think it matters who you are, or what your job is, or who your husband is, EVERYONE keeps a right to some kind of privacy.

    Let’s draw a comparison. Annie chose to take a photo of her boobs and stick them on her blog, which is great. If her next door neighbour was doing some gardening and was up a ladder and peeked over his fence and saw her sunbathing topless, and sneakily took lots of photos of her without her knowledge, and then sold them to the local paper, would that be okay? Of course it bloody wouldn’t.

    As I said on Mummy from the Heart’s blog, if she had been papped falling drunk out of a club in central London, with her boobs falling out of her top, that would be one thing. Because I think it’s a fair assumption there would be a lot of people around to see. But on your holiday, in a remote part of France, sitting on your own balcony, she absolutely had the right NOT to have some creep with a very long range lens take photos of her.

    I really, genuinely don’t get this idea that she has ‘given up her right’ to anything and it worries me a bit because it strays dangerously close to the idea that you ‘give up your right’ not to be attacked by a stranger if you get drunk and wear a short skirt or you ‘give up your right’ to say no to sex when you marry someone.

    Victim blaming is never okay.

  22. Let’s take another example that doesn’t use sex or boobs. We ALL as bloggers write about our own children on our blogs. And quite a lot of us put pictures of our children on our blogs. Which is totally our choice.

    Imagine you stumbled across another blog, written by a stranger, and it was a description of your child playing in the park one day, along with a couple of pictures of them. Nothing sinister, just a nice description of your son or daughter playing on the swings or slide.

    You’d think, what the fuck is this? How do I get it taken down? What an invasion of privacy.

    Using the logic that people are using about Kate, the author of that blog could just say ‘well, you write about your kids at the park all the time, you put up pictures of your kids all the time. Haven’t you *given up your right* not to have other people do the same?’

    • Interesting point – I have seen this argument used in blogging before on the topic of kids and images of them. Sadly on the whole I have seen a lot of people taking the ‘well if you put it on the internet then chances are someone is going to take it / use it’ stance, which I know isn’t quite the same as someone snapping one’s child but…

      I think there will always be the three camps on the privacy issue:
      Camp A – It’s to be expected, sad that that’s the case but it’s just the way things are and folk should be just be aware of that
      Camp B – It’s an invasion of ones privacy, nothing gives anyone the right to violate someone else’s privacy under any circumstances
      Camp C – I see the point of Camp A and Camp B, it’s a tricky bugger to call

      I am firmly in Camp C, I feel that yes, invading anyone’s privacy is wrong but that it happens and that people should be very aware of that. To use a really unrelated example it’s like Google +…taking everyone’s personal information, tie-ing that the Pages, Profiles, YouTube, Google searches, showing the world what you as an individual recommends – most people aren’t 100% comfortable with it but there’s a real element of ‘but it’g Google, they are massive, that level of change will happen, even if we aren’t really happy with it so we’ll roll with it anyway’

      I think what I mean is I agree, invading one’s privacy is wrong but at the same time I see it as an unavoidable sad reflection of the age we are now in.

      *love you long time Ruth* x

  23. I had no idea what to expect when I clicked into this – wow – So I’m just going to keep it brief or else I will repeat what has been said before me! I am in absolute agreement – they are just boobs, but I actually feel that every human being, no matter their status, has a right to their privacy, and basic amount of respect. Kate was in a private place on a private holiday – she wasn’t ‘flaunting’ herself openly – she should have been respected, given some sensitivity, especially after the Diana debacle. And unfortunately boobs have now been sexualised – so the pap wolves will hunt any down for the sake of a grubby pay cheque. X. Ps A very bold and brave post – and one that has sparked a great debate. You have balls as well as lovely boobs!.

  24. They are just breasts but there is no way I could post mine! lol

  25. Love it! Can’t be arsed to get into the whole press vs privacy debate right now. So just to say, fab post, fab pair and fab caption.

  26. Annie you are missing the point by a mile.
    You have chosen to publish pictures of your breasts online, Kate Windsor had pictures of her breasts published without her consent.
    She did not consent to have pictures of her breasts published and it is this which, to my reading, is the objection from her and her family. It isn’t a statement about breasts and whether or not they are sexualised or pictures of them acceptable.
    This is also true for issues of privacy, in taking the photographs without consent privacy has been invaded, purposefully for financial gain.
    These are truth’s no matter who the pictures are of or what body part they are of.

    As for the “she’s given up the right to privacy” what absolute bollocks. The only people to blame for these pictures being taken and published are the photographer and publishing companies, not the woman who did not consent to be photographed or consent to have those photographs published.

    Consider yourself lucky Annie that you have the choice to publish pictures of your breasts when other women have that choice taken away.

    • No no Ruth, I am not making any point or statements about Kate’s privacy or right to privacy / lack of – or anyone’s privacy for that matter, that’s not the angle I am taking at all, that’s already been debated to the death. I’m thinking more about the media angle – why have they made such a massive deal over the photos. Yes they are breasts, yes the photos have been exchanged for lots of money but ultimately photos are papped / taken of celebrities without their consent every day. One only has to look at such pathetic excuses of magazines such as Closer, we’ve all seen the images of a celeb walking down the street that have been published with a big pink circle drawn around a celulitey bit of leg – they didn’t consent to those photos being taken but there’s no uproar over them…

      Minor celeb out jogging looking a bit on the chubby side or Princess with her tits out – why should one be considered more outrageous and a shocking invasion of privacy than the other?

  27. Annie, if that is the point you are intending to make why link it to Kate Windsor?
    If you don’t want to discuss privacy, why criticise her for trying to defend her own?
    If you want to discuss why pictures of breasts feature so heavily in the media you HAVE to discuss gender inequalities and so on.
    Why are these pictures being made a particular fuss of? Because the British media wouldn’t in the current media climate in the UK be able to publish those photographs, so they turn the story into the “what have those horrid foreigners done to our Princess” rather than “Wahey, Wills has a handful and we’ve got an eyeful”

    “Minor celeb out jogging looking a bit on the chubby side or Princess with her tits out – why should one be considered more outrageous and a shocking invasion of privacy than the other?”
    Minor celeb vs future queen of England = status
    snapped out jogging vs long lens snooping into private space = public space vs private space
    Clothes on vs clothes off = no brainer really.

    Even when you are protesting that your post isn’t about an invasion of privacy this is the very issue you bring it back to yourself.

    If you want to discuss breasts, do so, but please accept that you can’t discuss depictions of breasts in the media without also addressing issues of privacy and consent if you choose to include references to the pictures of Kate Windsor.

  28. What about bollocks?

  29. Because it’s her breasts that are in the news, her breasts that are causing the controversy. I’m not criticizing her for defending her own, though she has had photos taken of her without her consent before that have been published – why does it take bare breasted images to make her take a stance.
    I don’t feel that I ‘have to’ address any issues, gender inequalities or privacy whether I reference Kate Windsor or not, tis my space, my blog and I can say – or choose not to say – what I wish. I’m perfectly happy for you to disagree or agree on that, we all have our own opinions but on this occasion sweet cheeks we’ll have to disagree.

  30. To publish a piece of writing that invites a discourse on breasts and their depictions in the media and to then not take into account the patriarchal hegemony of the culture that the media, its producers and consumers exist in and how they in turn interact and perpetuate the portrayal of genders, bodies and the subsequent issues around the body, privacy, ownership and consent is no discussion at all; it is essentially saying “look boobies” and Page 3 of The Sun already does that.

    That is what I mean when I say you “have to” consider certain elements of discourse, otherwise its just you with your tits out making no point whatsoever.

    And yes you did criticise her when you wrote “she’s not helping the sisterhood” that statement posits her pursuit to defend her legally enshrined right to privacy as at odds with your preferred statement of “boobs, get over it” (I too can paraphrase).

    I’m questioning how you express your ideas and the logic of that expression, not your right to express them nor you as a person.

  31. Oh Annie how I love you!

    The only comment I have to make is regarding the statement that when she married the future king she gave up her privacy rights? Really? Come on, no matter who you are, what you do or who you marry you still have a right to your own privacy. If someone did the same to anyone one of us you would feel completely invaded, so why should this be different just because who she is married to? Private villa not public beach huge huge difference.

  32. Ok maybe my statement was a touch over-simplified. But I do genuinely believe that it shows a level of ignorance that she would not expect attempts to take photographs of her naked, when she is outside, naked.
    I wouldn’t like my boobs in the press, so therefore I wouldn’t be topless outdoors. And I’m not remotely worth photographing. In Kate’s shoes, I would be pressing charges too, but it wouldn’t have happened in the first place, because I’m not that naive.

  33. Well said. I think unfortunately if you are in her position there is a bounty on your breasts, so if you don’t want them seen you’d best not get them out where there is a chance of being seen. Fortunately the only time there was bounty on my beauties was when I dropped some delicious coconut treat down my bra.

  34. I don’t know if Kate Middleton is that bothered by it – she just has to sue the magazine probably because her advisors told her to. If it happened to me I think I’d laugh it off.

  35. Only just spotted this Annie. You are so brave :-) and you look fab.

    As for Kate, I love her, but if you get your boobs out when you are that much in the public eye, then its the risk you take…

  36. I love this photo. not (just) for the boobs, but. Because your amazeballs for doing this. Not something i have the balls to do (would moobs look scary on the blog?)

    *random bloke comment Phwoar……*

    Paul

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